Legislature(2021 - 2022)

01/25/2022 11:30 AM House WAYS & MEANS

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11:33:39 AM Start
11:34:17 AM Presentation(s): Fiscal Policy Impacts
12:53:58 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Presentation: Fiscal Policy Impacts by TELECONFERENCED
Nils Andreassen, Executive Director, Alaska
Municipal League; Mayor Pat Branson, City of
Kodiak; Mayor Ken Castner, City of Homer;
Alicia Maltby, President and CEO,
Associated Builders and Contractors of Alaska
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
           HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS                                                                          
                        January 25, 2022                                                                                        
                           11:33 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ivy Spohnholz, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Adam Wool, Vice Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  FISCAL POLICY IMPACTS                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PAT BRANSON, Mayor                                                                                                              
City of Kodiak                                                                                                                  
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided comments about future fiscal                                                                    
policy impacts to local governments.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KEN CASTNER, Mayor                                                                                                              
City of Homer                                                                                                                   
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided comments about future fiscal                                                                    
policy impacts to local governments.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
NILS ANDREASSEN, Executive Director                                                                                             
Alaska Municipal League                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation, titled                                                               
"Planning for the Future."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ALICIA MALTBY, President and CEO                                                                                                
Association of Builders and Contractors                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  the need for a capital budget.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:33:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR IVY  SPOHNHOLZ called  the House  Special Committee  on Ways                                                            
and  Means  meeting  to  order  at  11:33  a.m.    Representatives                                                              
Josephson, Schrage,  Wool, and Spohnholz were present  at the call                                                              
to order.  Representatives  Story and Prax arrived  as the meeting                                                              
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  Fiscal Policy Impacts                                                                                        
            PRESENTATION(S):  Fiscal Policy Impacts                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
11:34:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                              
be a presentation on fiscal policy impacts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:35:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAT BRANSON,  Mayor, City  of Kodiak,  expressed the opinion  that                                                              
local  governments  need  the [Community  Assistance  Program]  to                                                              
provide residents  with basic services; otherwise,  shifting costs                                                              
to local municipalities  hurts Alaskans.  With only  50 percent of                                                              
school bond  debt reimbursement, he  argued that local  taxes will                                                              
need to increase  to cover this.  He said that  Kodiak's 7 percent                                                              
sales  tax  barely covers  city  operations.   He  continued  that                                                              
local  governments have  no way  to pay  for deferred  maintenance                                                              
and  capital  needs.    For example,  he  said  Kodiak  needs  $18                                                              
million for  a new  firehouse and  $23 million  for a  new harbor.                                                              
He  maintained  that  education  should  be fully  funded  at  all                                                              
levels,   as   this   helps   to   create   and   retain   Alaskan                                                              
professionals, and  he insisted that school bond  debt promises by                                                              
the state need  to be upheld.   Concerning the jail in  Kodiak, he                                                              
said, the state  has obligations which are not being  met, and the                                                              
city is  expected to pick  up the tab.   He concluded  by pointing                                                              
out workforce issues  which result from the lack of  day care.  He                                                              
argued  that day  care is  an essential  service  to help  parents                                                              
work, which in turn improves Alaska's economy.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:43:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KEN CASTNER,  Mayor, City  of Homer, in  response to  the previous                                                              
testifier's comments  concerning jail funding, explained  that the                                                              
cities absorb  the cost  of increased  jail operations  because of                                                              
the  current flat  rate of  state funding.   He  pointed out  that                                                              
constituents   are  complaining   about  state  road   conditions.                                                              
Concerning harbors,  he stated that the Municipal  Harbor Facility                                                              
Grants  Program is  continually  underfunded.   He explained  that                                                              
because  of  overcrowding,   Homer  has  a  new   harbor  project;                                                              
however, the state  closed the coastal engineering  department, so                                                              
the  city  must  contract  with   private  engineering  firms  for                                                              
services.    He continued  with  other  issues, stating  that  the                                                              
Community Assistance  Program is funded below  traditional levels;                                                              
grants for  the emergency services  have gone from an  80/20 split                                                              
between  state and  local  governments  to a  10/90  split; and  a                                                              
reduction in funding  for the Department of Public  Safety has led                                                              
to  fewer opportunities  for training  and reduced  the number  of                                                              
state fire marshal  inspections.  He explained that  when the city                                                              
helps  emergencies  outside  its   boundaries,  troopers  are  not                                                              
always  available.   He  argued  that in  the  next  10 years  the                                                              
relationship  needs to be  clarified between  the state  and local                                                              
governments, so  local governments will  know what to  expect from                                                              
the  state.   He suggested  that  currently the  ability of  local                                                              
governments to  absorb more  responsibilities has been  exhausted.                                                              
He  concluded  that  a lasting  and  stable  relationship  between                                                              
state and  local governments  is needed  to accommodate  municipal                                                              
and state needs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:53:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NILS  ANDREASSEN,  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Municipal  League                                                              
(AML), provided  a PowerPoint  presentation, titled  "Planning for                                                              
the Future,"  [hard copy  included in the  committee packet].   He                                                              
advised that  evaluating lost revenue  should be based  on average                                                              
revenue  growth, which  is  at 4.2  percent.   He  stated this  is                                                              
twice  as much  as any  assumptions made  by the  administration's                                                              
10-year plan.   He explained  that the  inflation rate in  the 10-                                                              
year  plan  is   only  applied  to  certain   programs,  excluding                                                              
transfers   to   local   governments,   nonprofits,   and   school                                                              
districts.   He pointed  out a  graph showing  a reduction  in the                                                              
grants for the  Community Assistance Program.  He  said that local                                                              
governments  would have  to do  "less  with less."   He  suggested                                                              
that  this  would  result  in local  tax  increases  and  deferred                                                              
maintenance.   He  argued that  deferred  maintenance would  cause                                                              
municipalities  to  fall behind,  and  residents  would leave  the                                                              
area.   He pointed  out that the  state's revenue  is not  tied to                                                              
population  or economic  development; rather,  it is  tied to  the                                                              
volatility of resource development and investment revenue.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:00:37 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  pointed out  that, according  to statute,  the 10-                                                              
year  plan  must   balance  sources  and  uses   of  funds,  while                                                              
providing  for   essential  state  services  and   protecting  the                                                              
economic  stability  of the  state.   He  emphasized  that the  50                                                              
percent repayment  of school bond  debt reimbursement  [as written                                                              
in  the 10-year  plan] would  not fully  capitalize the  Community                                                              
Assistance  Program and  rural school  construction.   For a  more                                                              
robust  10-year  plan,  he  argued  for  increasing  revenues  and                                                              
creating new revenues,  recognizing cost growth,  and planning for                                                              
economic growth.   He suggested  that municipal governments  could                                                              
propose  statutory  changes  to   achieve  goals,  such  as  tying                                                              
funding  for  education  to  the education  system's  goals.    He                                                              
listed some  suggested changes  to the  10-year plan:  funding for                                                              
school construction  and major maintenance; increased  funding for                                                              
the  Alaska  Public Employees'  Retirement  System  and  Teachers'                                                              
Retirement  System; port  and  harbor debt  reimbursement;  harbor                                                              
facility matching  grants; funding  for the Division  of Community                                                              
and  Regional  Affairs;   funding  for  road  and   rural  airport                                                              
maintenance  beginning at  $10 million;  and  funding for  village                                                              
police officers.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN,  in response to Representative  Prax, acknowledged                                                              
that  the  relationship  between  local and  state  government  is                                                              
continually  evolving.   He  said  that the  constitution  defines                                                              
state  obligations for  public education,  public welfare,  public                                                              
health, the  university system,  a unified  court system,  and the                                                              
management of  lands and  resources.  He  reasoned that  for local                                                              
governments  to function well  they must  be able  to rely  on the                                                              
stability of  the state; when the  state does not follow  laws and                                                              
statutes,  it increases complexity  and uncertainty  at the  local                                                              
level.   He remarked that  current state programs,  which directly                                                              
fund  local  government  efforts,  ensure  care  for  each  unique                                                              
community.     For  example,  he   said  that  public   radio  and                                                              
television  are  important  services for  small  communities,  and                                                              
removing     these    community     programs    would     increase                                                              
destabilization.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN offered  to provide a rubric on behalf  of AML.  In                                                              
response  to  Representative  Wool,  he  stated  that  some  local                                                              
governments  have  had  to cease  operations,  including  landfill                                                              
management, animal control, election support, and city council.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:26:03 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN,  in response  to Representative  Story, said  that                                                              
AML  fully  supports funding  education.    He stated  that  local                                                              
governments fund  maintenance and  construction projects  in areas                                                              
with municipal school districts.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:30:05 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN resumed  the presentation on slide 5  and said that                                                              
there  is  a $21.9  billion  list  of infrastructure  needs.    He                                                              
stated that some  of the infrastructure needs,  such as broadband,                                                              
water,  and  wastewater,   will  be  met  by   the  Infrastructure                                                              
Investment and  Jobs Act, so this  could allow the state  to focus                                                              
on school construction and major maintenance and jails.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  displayed  the chart  on slide  6 which shows  the                                                              
state  is  projecting  that  the current  debt  from  school  bond                                                              
reimbursement  will go  away in  the next  few years.   He  stated                                                              
that,  since the  moratorium, municipalities  are  more likely  to                                                              
request  funds under  municipal  grant programs  instead of  using                                                              
funding from  the Regional  Education Attendance  Area.   Relative                                                              
to the school  district needs, he said, the average  amount funded                                                              
is  only  14   percent.    He  expressed  the   opinion  that  the                                                              
Department   of  Education   and   Early   Development  has   been                                                              
underfunded for decades.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:36:20 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN suggested  that  local governments  want  to be  a                                                              
part  of a  process which  strengthens Alaska's  communities.   He                                                              
stated  that  by identifying  priorities,  local  governments  can                                                              
increase economic  development, improve  quality of  life, reverse                                                              
outmigration, and more.   He continued that the lack  of a revenue                                                              
structure  addressing economic  growth makes  a positive  feedback                                                              
loop  between  economic  activity and  state  spending  difficult.                                                              
This creates challenges in a 10-year plan projection.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  encouraged strengthening partnerships  between the                                                              
state  and  local  governments.   He  suggested  that  this  would                                                              
create negotiated  agreements the  state could  uphold, and,  as a                                                              
result,  work at local  levels would  be enhanced.   He  suggested                                                              
that  collaborations should  also  extend  to tribal  governments.                                                              
For  a  sense  of  how  different   state  programs  impact  local                                                              
governments,   he  referred   the   committee   to  the   website,                                                              
akfiscalfutures.com.    He  added  that  some  programs  could  be                                                              
delivered by the private sector.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:47:05 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALICIA  MALTBY, President  and CEO,  Association  of Builders  and                                                              
Contractors  (ABC),   stated  that  the  Alaska   Chapter  of  ABC                                                              
represents 123  companies and operates the  largest apprenticeship                                                              
program in  the state.   She said  ABC supports thoughtful,  long-                                                              
term  planning  for a  capital  budget  which focuses  on  meeting                                                              
Alaska's   infrastructure   needs.     She   said  that   offering                                                              
consistent funding  in the budget would allow for  growth to adapt                                                              
to  rapidly changing  markets.   She  said  that the  construction                                                              
industry  is   inherently  unstable,   so  adopting  a   plan  for                                                              
reliable,  sustained   investments  into  capital   budgets  would                                                              
provide more stability.   She cautioned the committee  from taking                                                              
on large investments  to stimulate the economy  in the short-term.                                                              
She encouraged  making sustainable  and flexible investments  over                                                              
time.    She explained  that  large  influxes  of money  into  the                                                              
economy  in the  short  term could  create  an inefficient  market                                                              
because  this  would  drive  up   project  costs  and  require  an                                                              
increased need  for workers  from the Lower  48.  She  stated that                                                              
ABC  encourages   the  state  to   adopt  a  consistent,   stable,                                                              
reliable,  and  flexible  plan for  reinvestment  in  the  state's                                                              
capital infrastructure.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:53:58 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further business  before the committee,  the House                                                              
Special  Committee on  Ways  and Means  meeting  was adjourned  at                                                              
12:54 p.m.                                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
10-year Fiscal Plan Presentation, Alaska Municipal League, 1.25.22.pdf HW&M 1/25/2022 11:30:00 AM